The critical vote on affordable health care is today
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Today the House votes on whether to pass the Senate bill. If it succeeds, the Senate will then use reconciliation to pass some changes to the bill.
Detailed analysis by Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com: Getting the 216 Yes votes (he puts the odds of the bill passing at about 80%). Democrats taking the biggest risk by voting Yes. Overview of the negotiating process. Increase in liberal support for the bill.
Paul Krugman summarizes what's in the bill.
My fingers are crossed. This is the US's best chance to get a handle on the problem of affordable health care.
Detailed analysis by Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com: Getting the 216 Yes votes (he puts the odds of the bill passing at about 80%). Democrats taking the biggest risk by voting Yes. Overview of the negotiating process. Increase in liberal support for the bill.
Paul Krugman summarizes what's in the bill.
My fingers are crossed. This is the US's best chance to get a handle on the problem of affordable health care.
Posted by russilwvong at 7:56 AM on March 21st 2010

After the stunning upset win of Scott Brown in Massachusetts, the US Senate swung from 60 votes in the Democrat causus to 59, leaving the Dems without a filibuster proof majority against strong unified Republican front. Health care reform seemed dead, after a year of intense debate, threatening to make the Democrats, with a majority in both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, a laughing stock and sitting ducks in the 2010 elections
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wasn't having it. She's managed to use her super duper powers of persuasion to convince President Obama that health care could still be done, that she and Senate Leader Harry Reid could rangle the votes to get health care done, but they needed him to join the right in earnest. He did, traveling to cities, holding a health care summit, working Congress members by phone and meetings, repeatedly meeting and personally persuading some Democrats to vote for the bill.
All of that is coming to head today, Sunday March 21, as the House prepares to vote on reform and in the process, make history in the United States with the passing of an actual health care reform legislation that will be law of the land. OpenCongress.org has the skinny on what's happening today, starting at 1pm EST, here's the short version if I'm reading it right: First, there will be debate about the rules of debate about the bill, a vote on ending that debate, then a vote on the rules, THEN the health care debate actually begins, a vote on budget points of order, then vote on the Senate bill that passed in December (but never made it to conference committee with the House bill, due to Scott Brown's win), then vote on a series of fixes for that bill. Technically the Senate will vote to agree to those changes next week via reconciliation, meaning they only need 51 votes, not the filibuster proof 60 and Harry Reid says he has the votes to do it. The House Democrats got a pledge from Senate Democrats that they would agree to the House's fixes (which helped the House agree to today's vote) so once the House votes today, reform will essentially be the law of the land. Republicans will be trying various procedural tactics, but with the House Democrats saying they have the 216 votes they need, it looks like a done deal.
Major news networks and the talking heads will be covering everything starting around 9am EST, but the actual action in the House doesn't start 'till 1pm EST, which should be carried by CSPAN in its entirety. If you really want to review the history of the current health care fight, Slate has a head spinning collection of links and references in a handy timeline. Ezra Klein has created a Twitter list of important peeps to follow today.
I was shocked when the phone rang and then was answered.
The actual vote on the actual bill estimated to be sometime between 6-10pm. I'm guessing it's going to be later, just 'cause that's how Congress rolls.
I'm off to make guacamole, gonna be a long day.
* Marion Berry of Arkansas, who voted for reform in November and is retiring this year
* Rick Boucher of Virginia
* Jerry Costello of Illinois, a Stupak ally
* Kathy Dahlkemper of Pennsylvania, a Stupak ally
* Joe Donnelly of Indiana, a Stupak ally
* Steve Driehaus of Ohio, a Stupak ally
* Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania
* Dan Lipinski of Illinois, a Stupak ally
* Alan Mollohan of West Virginia, a Stupak ally
* Earl Pomeroy of North Dakota, a Stupak ally
* Nick Rahall of West Virginia
* And Bart Stupak of Michigan
Yes there's a lot of Stupak allies there, but several reports (Reuters, Wall Street Journal and MSNBC) say Stupak will vote yes, though nothing official has been announced.
Stupak just said that the Dems are well over 216 now.
Edit: Nah, they were still debating the rules that will govern the actual debate.
Last I saw it was guaranteed issue and community rating, so yeah, it will make private insurance a financial possibility for many people who have (potentially) expensive conditions like diabetes, severe asthma, MS, heart disease, history of cancer, etc. The costs of community rating should be controlled by expanding the pool with a requirement that everyone should be insured now.
<small> creepy stalker guy had nothing to do with it, I swear!</small>
I have a feeling he has a private convo with Biden every week, something along the lines of "Look, Joe, you're VP now, that means certain things can't be done, stuff like...are you going to turn the tv or not when I'm talking to you? And for god sakes it's 3 in the afternoon, put on something besides the wife beater!!!"